[Berlin-wireless] talk about Freifunk at the MANIAC Challenge Workshop

Do Jul 25 16:19:09 CEST 2013

Hi Juergen,
thanks for the info and for trying to shift your schedule for us, on such
short notice.
I'm a Freifunk-fan so I'm sure we will find another occasion for you to
talk to our community.
In the mean time, I think we will manage on Sunday.
Cheers,
Emmanuel

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Juergen Neumann <j.neumann at junes.eu> wrote:

> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> I am sorry! I cannot shift my other obligations for the weekend. For me
> it's a bit too short term.
>
> In any way I wanted to say that by its nature every _free_ wifi network
> is a load removal for commercial cell phone infrastructure, as people
> will prefereable use the free network, e.g. when roaming or also speed
> and capacity are of interest. It does of course not pay into the
> providers business modell, as the usage is free for everyone, but it can
> also connect people to commercial services of the providers, if they are
> keen to use those. ;-)
>
> At the moment freifunk.net very successful again and groing by large
> numbers all over the country. I am well willing to add some more
> detailed input into your organisation. Maybe there will be another
> occasion soon, or maybe someone else from freifunk.net can make it on
> sunday, just to give you a short intro.
>
> Here is a link to a little PR movie with subtitles in various languages:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z12OjnPADA
>
> Warmly,
>
> JuergeN
>
>
> Am Dienstag, den 23.07.2013, 10:03 +0200 schrieb Emmanuel Baccelli:
> > Hi again,
> > by the way, below is the current draft agenda for the MANIAC Challenge.
> > A talk about Freifunk and community wireless mesh networks would be great
> > on Sunday in the time dedicated for invited talks (somewhere around
> > 12:00 - 12:45).
> > Let me know if that could happen!
> > Best,
> > Emmanuel
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > Saturday July 27th
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > 09:00 - 10:00  Welcome and Setup
> > 10:00 - 10:30  Round 1
> > 10:30 - 11:30  Programming
> > 11:30 - 12:00  Break
> > 12:00 - 12:30  Round 2
> > 12:30 - 13:30  Lunch
> > 13:30 - 14:30  Programming
> > 14:30 - 15:00  Round 3
> > 15:00 - 15:30  Break
> > 15:30 - 16:30  Programming
> > 16:30 - 17:00  Round 4
> > 17:00 - 18:00  Programming
> > 18:00 - 18:30  Round 5
> > 18:30 - 18:45  Conclusion
> > 19:00 -        BBQ
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >   Sunday July 28th
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > 09:00 - 09:30  Intro MANIAC and Mobile Offloading
> > 09:30 - 11:00  Presentations of the 6 teams (per team max. 15 minutes)
> > 11:00 - 11:30  Break
> > 11:30 - 12:00  Experience report MANIAC implementation (FU)
> > 12:00 - 12:45  Two external talks
> > 12:45 - 13:00  Conclusion
> > 13:00 - 15:00  ISOC Student Orientation (Presentations in German)
> > 16:00 - 17:00  Newcomers' Meet and Greet
> > 17:00 - 19:00  IETF Welcome Reception
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Emmanuel Baccelli
> > < mailto:Emmanuel.Baccelli at inria.fr Emmanuel.Baccelli at inria.fr
> > >
> > wrote:
> > Hi Sven-Ola,
> > thanks for your answer. We are also advocating for more bandwidth for
> this kind of networks ;)
> > Actually the aim of this workshop is to show that ad hoc networking and
> community wireless mesh networking can fruitfully complement operator
> networks (which also use Wifi).
> > The idea is that user can virtually *sell* their ad hoc networking
> resource to operators if they want to.
> > This does not disable the ability for users to offer their ad hoc
> networking resource for free, when an operator is not involved for instance.
> > For that matter, we think that your experience building Freifunk would
> be very interesting to workshop attendees.
> > It would be great if someone of you could attend (there are no
> registration fees) and give a brief talk about your experience
> operating/building Freifunk.
> > Would you be interested in giving such a talk?
> > Best,
> > Emmanuel
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Sven-Ola Tuecke
> > < mailto:sven-ola at gmx.de sven-ola at gmx.de
> > >
> > wrote:
> > Hi Workshop,
> > the main incentive here is free-and-unlicensed spectrum. Obviously a
> > strategic resource everyone depends on. Pleas do not hesitate and demand
> > *more* spectrum for this kind of applications and business models.
> > Kindly // Sven-Ola
> > Am Montag, den 22.07.2013, 17:01 +0200 schrieb Emmanuel Baccelli:
> > > Hi Freifunk,
> > >
> > > You may (or may not) have already heard about the upcoming MANIAC
> > > Challenge ( http://www.maniacchallenge.org
> http://www.maniacchallenge.org
> > ) which takes place in
> > > conjunction with the IETF in Berlin next weekend. The focus of the
> > > MANIAC Challenge this year is on developing and comparatively
> > > evaluating strategies to offload infrastructure access points via
> > > customer ad hoc forwarding using handhelds (e.g., smartphones,
> > > tablets). The incentive for customers is discounted monthly fees, and
> > > the incentive for operators is decreased infrastructure costs. The
> > > idea is to demonstrate scenarios/strategies that do not degrade user
> > > experience while offering significant mobile offloading on the
> > > infrastructure.
> > >
> > >
> > > The event consists in two parts. The first part is the actual
> > > coding/experiment part, happening on the Saturday at the FU Berlin,
> > > where you are most welcome, of course.
> > >
> > >
> > > The second part is a half-day workshop planned at the IETF hotel in
> > > Berlin (the Intercontinental) on Sunday morning, from 9AM until lunch
> > > time. The workshop will focus on analyzing the different forwarding
> > > strategies for mobile data offloading, and will feature invited talks.
> > >
> > >
> > > We were wondering whether one of you from Freifunk would consider
> > > giving a short talk at this occasion on Sunday morning (July 28th),
> > > about your experience developing wireless mesh community networks,
> > > including the aspect of Internet access via such networks. That would
> > > be very interesting for workshop attendees in our opinion. A 15
> > > minutes talk would be perfect in this context. The exact timeslot for
> > > the talk is to be determined (we're currently compiling the detailed
> > > agenda as you can see ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > It would be great to have such a talk. Please do let me know as soon
> > > as possible if one of you is interested in giving such a talk.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
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